Jewish Polygamy

This blog was created to explore the concept of Polygamy in an Orthodox Jewish setting as part of the solution to varius problems facing our community today.

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I am an ultra-Orthodox Rabbi and a Dayan in matters of Gittin (Jewish divorce).

Friday, June 30, 2006

Root Of The Problem

Robert Kolker, in a recent article in New York Magazine wrote "Rabbi-on-child molestation is a widespread problem in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community, and one that has long been covered up, according to rabbis, former students, parents, social-service workers, sociologists, psychologists, victims’ rights advocates, and survivors of abuse interviewed for this story. They argue that sexual repression, the resistance to modernity, and the barriers to outsiders foster an atmosphere conducive to abuse and silence."

The suggestion is that the nature of our community fosters this problem. What about our community? - sexual repression, resistence to modernity and the barriers to outsiders.

D'racheha dar'chei no'am v'chol n'thivotheha shalom, Your ways are ways of pleasantness and all your paths are peace. The Torah lifestyle is the ideal lifestyle for fostering Torah values and Torah observance. The true Torah life style does not foster abuse of any kind.

The lack of sexual repression and the wonderful modernity of secular society has brought us to the huge percentage of high school and even junior high school (and rachmana litslan now even elementary school) promiscuity. Secular society teaches that there are no boundaries for consensual sex. This is the modernity referred to in Kolker's article. Has this eliminated child pornography? Has it eliminated trafficing in sex slaves - adults and children or child prostitution? Has it eliminated forcible stranger rape and date rape? Has it lessened incest and child abuse in the secular world? I don't think that there is evidence for any of those things. Besides those problems, and besides the easy acceptance of nonmarital sex, we see that there is no punishment and almost no pejorative associated with adultery. Not only is homosexuality (which the Torah considers an abomination and a capital offense both for Jews and Gentiles) almost totally accepted by "modern" secular society, there are even demands that homosexuals be allowed to marry, and that we not discriminate against them (even if we are doing it to protect ourselves from disease). Instead of being punished as in the past (foregive me for even mentioning it) bestiality is merely smiled and sniggered at. There is more concern for the rights of the animal than for the degradation of the person and society.

Removing sexual repression from society did not cure the problems and did not create a better society and in fact created mor problems.

We do not resist the benefits of modernity such as its technology, but widespread sexual immorality is not modernlity. It is a return to the primitive wickedness that the Torah warned us about: "According to the deeds of the land of Egypt ...you shall not do and according to the ways of the land of Cana'an you shall not do...." This is not modernity, this is not a goal, this is the antithesis of the way of the Torah.

That being said, let us see what the Torah wants from us.

Should we separate ourselves and our children from the evils of society? Obviously yes.

Should we uproot the evil from our midst? This is what the Torah advises. See my article "Sexual Abuse Action Plan" on this blog. By removing the current abusers, we can keep future generations from becoming victims. Be limiting victims, we lessen the pool of potential abusers, because unfortunately, victims often become abusers.

On our way to becoming a holy nation (or shall we say a more holy nation) should we limit temptations? Yes.

But what about taking it one step further, and returning to the pure ways of the Torah?

See my article in this blog on the proper age to get married. The Mishnah in Pirkei Avoth says Shemoneh Esrei L'chuppah. The Gemora suggests, and the Shulchan Aruch codifies that the ideal age to get married for fighting the yetser hara (evil inclination) is actually much younger. The Gemorra suggests 16 or 14, the Shulchan Aruch suggests 13. The Gemora sasys that if a man does not get married by age 20, all of his days will be spent thinking about sin. The simple halacha is that if he hasn't gotten married by age 20, we force him to get married. (The Rama says that nowadays the custom is not to force.)

Part of following the paths of the Torah is doing exactly what chazal suggested. Part of the fight against modernism is refraining from saying that because circumstances have changed, Chazal's rules and suggestions are not valid and binding. Someone who has a wife does not need to have sexual fantasies. Does not need to sneak off and meet girls. Does not need to look for damaging things on the internet. Yes, some married men may do those things, but did they fulfill Chazal's words to get married young, or are they fulfilling Chazal's words "all of his days will be thinking about sin"?

So step one is to uproot and isolate the current abusers. Get counselling for their victims so that the victims don't become abusers.

Step two - Encourage early marriage. Do not allow raging hormones to create a state of illicit thoughts.

These two steps will eliminate a lot of the problems for most people. There is a small minority of people for whom this is not enough. They are married. They got married young. The hormones are still raging. Maybe the wife is not available as much as he needs (perhaps through no fault of her own, her cycles may be off, she may be ill and weak or any of a number of legitimate reasons). The Torah gave a solution for this problem too.

This solution is called polygamy. We hope soon to have a full discussion of the halachic status of Cherem Rabbeinu Gershom bizman hazeh as well as the sociological needs for polygamy. In the meantime, suffice it to say that for Sephardim and 'Edoth Hamizrach, there is not the slightest question, it is perfectly mutar. The Rashba and the Beith Yoseph both say clearly that the cherem was over in the year 4999. The Rashba, the Maharik and the Beith Yoseph all say that a man who left the place where they had the cherem and came to a place that didn't have it are not obligated. the beith Yoseph specifically dealt with the case of an Ashkenazi in Yerushalayim who had a wife, had shalom bayis, had children and just wanted an additional wife. The Beith Yoseph was matir. He also said that in Andrianople, Salonika and Constantinople there were large kehilloth of Ashkenazim and they married two wives and no one said boo.

Polygamy s not for everyone, but since it is mutar at least in some circumstances (and I think in general as I will show when I get the article posted), it should be used to eliminate some of the tensions which may cause a person to sin.

Even if the cherem applied, since it did not spread to all Jews everywhere, then even a Beith Din which is less in chochma v'minyan can eliminate the ban. If eliminating it would eliminate even a small percentages of the problems, then it should be done.

77 Comments:

Blogger moshe59 said...

Rabbi emes said:
"Step two - Encourage early marriage. Do not allow raging hormones to create a state of illicit thoughts."

"If we would expect our sons to be mature and would train them to be mature and would give them responsibilities, then indeed they could be mature enough to get married at the age that the Torah directs."

Are you writing this blog as some sort of a joke?

What kind of responsibilities are you proposing we give our eighteen year olds so that they can be "mature"?

You do not mean an education,or tools so that they start making a parnassa at age eighteen (chv'sh)!! (or are you advocating that the ultra orthodox start making sure that eighteen year olds become equipped to start working to support a family?)

mm...that would take away from their torah study, wouldn't it?

And if they are married by age eighteen (or sixteen) then it would not be unreasonable that they would be blessed with a few little mouths to feed (5 or 6?) by the time they reach the age of 25.

I simply do not see the economic feasibilty of your simple solution. In fact I see it as nothing more than a bigger disaster that already exists today in the Ultra orthodox sector, which is only getting worse thanks to the simplified thinking you have displayed.

5:40 PM  
Blogger emeslyaakov said...

In our Kollel, all men are expected to support their families. Some teach, some are sophrim. Some are electricians. The wives are discouraged from working, the husbands are told that they must support the family, but their main function is still to learn Torah. This is what the Torah, as interpreted by chazal says to do. Chazal said to get married early. Our Kollel only passes on the misearble few hundred shekels that the government gives.

In the yeshiva community with which I am associated, a bochur who is not married by the time that he is 19 is kicked out of the dormitory. Just tonight I went to the wedding of a very fine 18 year old bochur whose father is still committed to learning as his major occupation.

My rebbi z"l had 9 sons and 9 daughters. (One daughter was murdered by arabs, Hashem Yikom eth damah.) He taught all of his sons to be sophrim so that they would be neither beggars nor thieves.

In the course of a one hour conversation with my oldest daughter, three times she said that she wanted to pursue a career so that she could support someone in learning. Three times he answered "hu m'chuyav l'pharnes otach" )He is obligated to support you.)

I started earning money when I was 9. My father probably started when he was 10.

Look at the west side, where the guys don't feel the need to get maried at all - all their needs are taken care of.

My kids didn't listen to my advise. I wish they had so that I would have more grandchildren.

6:17 PM  
Blogger moshe59 said...

Rabbi Emes,

A few questions, if I may:

What training is involved in learning to be an electrician? teacher? Sopher? Must they be licensed?
How many hours a day/week do they spend doing their trade (teaching, sopher, electrician)?

If they work and have a parnassa, why must the government give them anything for learning torah?

10:24 AM  
Blogger emeslyaakov said...

I don't know how much training is needed. Licensing depends on whether you are part of the Israeli Medina system or part of the free economy.

Each works however much he needs to for his family. Teachers obviously have set classroom schedules.

The government steals our money for its projects, so everyone who has a legal opportunity to get some back is entitled to it.

As a libertarian, I am opposed to most taxation and almost all subsidies. As long as the governments don't give up on the taxation, and subsidize all kinds of wasteful and harmful garbage, I don't see why the good guys should give up their share.

2:20 PM  
Blogger moshe59 said...

A few comments:

There is a well known midrash about the two brothers, one who had a family and the other who was single, who each night would deliver wheat to each other. The one with the family rationalized: I am so fortunate to have a family, my brother has nothing, let me at least give him extra wheat.

The single one rationalized: I have no need for all this wheat, my brother has a family, he needs it more.

One night they met while delivering the wheat to each other, hugged and cried. The place they met became the site of har habayis.

A modern version of this medrash has it that the brothers each night go into the others' field to take wheat. The single brother rationalized: My brother is so fortunate to have a family. I have nothing, Let me at least enjoy a larger portion of wheat. The brother with the family rationalized: I have a family, I need more wheat, so I will go to my brother's field and take wheat from him. One night they met, fought, and the site of their meeting became the Knesset.

Question:

Does the system work? Is there economic stability in your community? Are the men trained enough? If everyone becomes sophrim and teachers, does the market ever get saturated?

Is everyone capable of supporting their families?

Sophrim earn enough to support their families?

Do many families rely on charity to get by?

I suspect that there is a high degree of poverty in your community. Am I mistaken?

Are there any trades or professions that the men in your community do not participate in?

you are (or were) a CPA. Are any boys in your community training to be accountants? Lawyers? Physicians? engineers? computer programmers? Social workers?

I know that if I were a teacher or a sopher, I would not be able to support my family properly. I wonder how it is done in your community.

Kol Tuv.

6:57 AM  
Blogger emeslyaakov said...

The cheder is very well regarded, so those who teach here are certainly doing a good job. They have opned branches in several places, including Toronto, Lakewood and Beit Shemesh.

The sophrim are excellent sophrim. There is a kupat tsedaka, and a gemach free loan society, but I think that basically people are getting by. No one displays any wealth, and maybe they are satisfied with very little, but we choose that life.

No one seems to be doing the things that require college.

There is a potential for a glut in the teachers market, but there is plenty of room for sophrim. A good sopher makes between $20 and $40 an hour I think.

The main thing is to align the thinking correctly - no one owes you a living, you don't have to be rich, no one is a show off. (For instance my wife inherited a fur coat. I discourage her from wearing it.)

12:13 PM  
Blogger isha said...

Rabbi,
You said "it should be done." Under the current circumstances in Israel how do you think it can get done, in concrete steps? What is your action plan? Have you discussed these halachic issues with your rebbe and if so what was the result?
If the halacha is so clear why aren't all rabbis agreed on it?

1:06 PM  
Blogger Nofia Altman said...

I am a divorced woman. I do not want to marry another abusive man. Most men my age who are divorced are someone else's garbage.

I have someone who would marry me if Ashkenazim would stay out of Sephardi halacha and leave them alone to lead their lives according to Sephardi tradition.

If Ashkenazim want to ban polygamy for themselves, let them. BUT LET SEPHARDIM KEEP DOING WHAT WORKED FOR THEM FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

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Blogger Yehudha said...

Nowhere does the Tora forbid "homosexuality". You fail to make the distinction between homosexuality and certain sexual acts.

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Chodesh Tov!I have been arguing with people about marriage at the proper times from the Gemara. Ve Tamu Kol HaShemanim! Our minds have been so filled with trash and apikorsus!
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Blogger JesusOverIsrael said...

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12:35 PM  
Blogger JesusOverIsrael said...

Dear Rabbi,



My questions about Jewish polygamy are these:



1. does the second wife also marry with chuppah and ketubah?

2. does she have to be provided a separate residence from the first wife?

3. is there an income limitation for the husband to ensure he can fairly support both wives and their children?

4. what is the difference between polygamy and pilegesh? Do you wish to introduce the latter as well?

5. what is the moral basis for permitting polygamy as a concession to the male’s excessive sex drive without considering the situation of the wives, who now are forced to live as embittered rivals? Does this not strike you as unfair and demeening?

6. what about Jesus’ statement that “from the beginning it was not so” in that Adam and Eve were created to be monogamous?

Shalom beShem Yeshuat Yisrael,
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9:40 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Lookin for a Beith Din that will approve subsequent marriages?

Is there a valid Orthodox Beith Din that I can approach to receive permission to marry 2nd or subsequent women? I read recently acording to at least one opinion that a man is not permitted to do this without the permission of Beth Din.

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Blogger nathalie said...

Rabbi Gershom was a great man : all you want to do is to legalize adultary : it is such a shame !

1:32 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Well Nathalie that is an intelligent and well thought of response! By the way did you no that Rav Gershon has 2 wives! You need to seriously look at your thinking paradigm and starting thinking like a Jew should.. assuming you are Jewish that is :=)

1:50 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

"You need to seriously look at your thinking paradigm and starting thinking like a Jew should.. assuming you are Jewish that is :=)"

Thinking like a Jewess, please. You need to seriously learn to control your sexual pulsions if you think you need several wives to live in a Jewish way.

4:20 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

By the way, Rabbi Gershom Ben Judah was a widow when he married his second wife : this has nothing to do with polygamy
"Having lost his first wife, Gershom married a widow named Bonna and settled at Mainz (Mayence), "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gershom_ben_Judah

4:45 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Nathalie who says it is only about sexual urges which by the way are natural given of HaShem. The Holy Baba Sali was a man of great rstraint and yet he took 2 wives in Morrocco before he came to HaArets. Bottom line the Christian reasons against Polygany had nothing to do with Rabbeinu Gershoms ban it was about the risk of a half brother and sister marrying when a man fled from persecution from the CHURCH and started another family elsewhere.
The Vilna Gaon is quoted as saying if he could he would have changed 2 things one is that he would have instituted Birchat HaCohenim every day and the the other is this ban on Polygany the reasoning is he said is because the redemption would come much quicker. I am Sephardi so I need only be concerned with Sephardi Halachot and my customs permit me to have more than one isha if I so want too.

9:55 AM  
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10:07 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

"my customs permit me to have more than one isha if I so want too."

You are an Israeli too according to your profile and the Israeli law does not allow you to marry several wives. Besides "dina de malkhuta dina" the law of the country is the law, so you should not.

11:22 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

First I am a Jew ie not a CITIZEN/CHATTEL PROPERTY OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL which is nothing more than a puppet state of the WESTERN ALLIANCE ie CATHOLIC/CHRISTIAN CONTROLLED WEST.

For the time being that is hopefully things will change and the Government will be one that is a Middle Eastern Jewish State instead of the defacto anglo / European puppet it is now but I digress too much :-)

As to breaking supposed LAW if you do not register a marriage with the STATE no law is broken, duh!

Plenty of Charedi Beitei Din that will do that with no connection of paperwork with the STATE hence no problemo! Living with more than one woman is no crime except for maybe a few US STATES.

11:39 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

We have a saying in France : "do not bite the hand that feeds you". I am just utterly shocked by your allegations about Israel and your lack of respect for women, while advocating polygamy. I have known polygamous African families : the result is a disaster, there is rivalry between the wives and rivalry between the children. It is not a sound situtation at all. It is not the future, it is the past.

12:05 PM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Nathalie,
I do advocate Polygamy but certainly not for every man as it has certain higher requirements to avoid the terrible situations you described amongst Afican Families in France. Also ideally a man should have some life and marriage experience before he adds another ishti to his family life A man must not show or allow favourtism to occur either between is wives or his children and regarding the children this can be a problem amongst 2nd and 3rd marriage siblings as well as amongst children of Monogomy Marriages so it is not unique to Polygamy as far as siblings is concerned.

The Jewish model is the proper one assuming that the man and the women are following and doing what the Torah teaches about raising a family.

That said many men came to Israel only 50- 60 years ago with 2 or more wives and it so it is not so long ago and the families were not horror stories as you seem to assume. If the women get along then it is powerful way to build strong families. And the reality is that on the quiet some men are still practising it both in Israel and elsewhere. An interesting fact is that Jews in France where still practising Polygany as is more accurate of the Torah practice ; 2 centuries after the ban by Rav Gershom and the Italian Community went on record at the time as rejecting his ban having authority over the Jews of Italy. I have spent a lot of time and actively look for all information on this subject as it is not the unversal acceptance as some would have us beleive. Certainly in all Muslim Controlled lands it was never accepted at all whether that be From Morrocco in the Far West of North Africa or to the far western Jews of Afganistan and from the south in Yemin to the Buchari Jews of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

8:18 PM  
Blogger nathalie said...

Polygamy was tolerated for the Sephardic because it was legal in a Muslim environment : it is a contamination of the Islamic way of life, and I beg your pardon but Islam is not my ideal.
This is a vain discussion anyway : I won't convince you as you are probably already polygamous and you won't convince me as I would NEVER EVER accept that my husband took a second wife.

12:56 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Tsk tsk, so upside down views you hold! Both Jewish and Islamic cultures permit Polygany as normative morality in their respective cultures as acceptable it was accepted way before the time of Mohammed.

So your premise that somehow Jews practised it because of Islam is just ignoring both Jewish Torah History and Middle East Non Jewish history. Hundreds of case are inferred too in the TeNak which is but a smal portion of Jewish Written History. Polygany was so normal that it was only mentioned as incidental just like we take Monogomy for granted in todays Western World.

As far as you saying that quote "it is a contamination of the Islamic way of life" You are seriously in denial because Islamic History if you start from Mohammed is full of examples of the practice!

I accept that you do not accept Islam as your ideal but I compare it because the ideal you are talking of ie Monogamy ONLY is a Catholic Law and Ashkenasi Jews were forced to follow Catholic Constrants in many areas either by physical force or by threats. I stand by my stance that Polygany was continued to be practised amongst israelim in Islamic countries because it did not conflict in any way with Isalmic moral and legal values, it is that simple, just the same as other issues were continued without distortion by Ashkenasi Jews because it was not in conflict with the stance and values of the Catholic Church.

You can choose to be Monogomous and even express a personal opinion that Polygany is not something you want and so may HaShem give you a Husband that respects that if you don't have one already. Just do not try and say that Polygany is not an acceptable Torah value!

By the same respect I have for your choice to not live that way why is it Monogamists like you are expressing cannot have tolerance for have a husband who wants more than one wife, why is that you seem to be free to force your Monogomous views on people who choose to live happily as they choose to Married to one man, a man who is a Lover of God, respectful to his women and does not commit adultery or fornicate haphazardly as he pleases. As the so moral monogomous hedonistic western society happily promotes and does.

What hypocrites these agents of the CHURCH are destroying Polyganous families whilst they happily sleep around and destroy the moral fabric of family values!

I glady side with my Islamic cousins on this issue; and that they are more rigteous than the Hedonist Western Catholic / Christian society that promotes a Monogamy only society!

4:43 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

If your ideal is Jacobs with his four partners (two wives and two servants) my ideal is Itzhak and Rivka : each one finds in the Torah what he wants.
Just out of curiosity have you got names of rabbis in Israel who celebrate second marriages or officially stand for polygamy while they are acknowledeged members of a Beith Din ?

5:09 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Well for a Start HaRav Ovadia Yosef said many years ago in the 80's sorry can't recall the exact year that the agreement between the STATE and Sephardim had expired regarding the non practice of Polygamy. And he says it as a fundamental part of sephardi culture taht should be restored / allowed for Sephardim practice.

Of course the STATE being subserviant to the UN is busy carrying out the UN's charter wich includes working to stamp out Polygamy the world over regardless of local customs and society acceptance of it! Forced to submit to CATHOLIC CANON LAW not my idea of Freedom to choose!

As to the argument of Yitzchak and Rivka versus Yaakov and his 4 Tsaddek'ot who founded the Nation of Israel!

Why does it have to a or situation why can't some people if it works out for them be like Yitzchak and Rivka whilst others be like Yaakov and his women that perform a Tikun of taking righteous women like Leah who could not bear the possibility of marrying a Rashaa like Esav. Rightesous women for a Righteous Man!

5:24 AM  
Blogger nathalie said...

You said "plenty of batei dinim" could perform multiple marriages in Israel without doing the official papers for the state ; what is the legal status of the children born in such "hidden marriages" : mamzerim ?

5:43 AM  
Blogger Yitzchak Micha'el said...

Wow! I assume you have little Torah Jewish knowlege such a Western/Christian mindset.

A mamzer is only from a forbidden relationship so nothing to do with out of wedlock which is Christian definiation of a BASTARD. The 2 have completely seperate definitions because they come out of 2 different Paradigms and Legal Framework the CATHOLIC / CHRISTIAN one borrowing somewhat from ancient Greco/Roman legal historical roots.

Although Chazal frown on such things ie no Kiddushin etc their is not Mamzer status to such a thing.

Registering of marriage to the STATE is a recent thing even in Western countries only the last 150 years or so. The Chuppah cermony is what makes the Marriage Valid.

As far as the STATUS to the STATE is concerned it would be treated the same I would imagine as 2 Tel Avivnics who live or used to live together without marriage who had a Yeled/'im.

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